This Energy Department program says cars will run more efficiently without the person behind the wheel

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Tom Temin: Dr. Sofos, good to have you on.

Dr. Marina Sofos: Nice to be on.

Tom Temin: Tell us about this program. This is a multi stage, I guess, competition type of round and you are in round two. Tell us about the program and where it stands at this point.

Dr. Marina Sofos: Yes. So the original NextCar program, which was founded in 2016, was focused on the premise of how could we leverage fencing along

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